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Hate France?

No.

Dislike the French leadership?

Yes.

Jacques Chirac is trying to position an impotent French government into the leadership role for a "united" Europe. His views on American defense and his rhetoric against military intervention in Iraq serve no purpose other than to divide the international community and increase the world influence of the French government.

It is interesting to note that French governments of the past have practiced imperialism unmatched by any western power in the twentieth century, Southeast Asia, North Africa, Iraq. When the French go to "war" (deprecated here because the French government never goes to war; it only protects its vital national interests) they never consult the United Nations Security Council. They just do it. Hundreds of thousands of innocent people have been murdered in those French operations by rebels that the French government supported and supplied in order to pursue its economic strategies, only to withdraw when public opinion for the government waned.

The French governments of recent memory have always been "obstructionist" when any action taken by another soveriegn nation to defend itself from threats impinges upon French self interests. This, in my opinion is a perfectly sane policy, but only when it does not impinge upon the rights of another soveriegn nation to defend itself and the world from tyrannical regimes.

They are un bunche of douchebags.

i hate france and liberals

Many Frenchmen keep mentioning their aide in the Revolutionary war, and of course the highly esteemed, and valorous Lafayette. I would like to set the record straight on this for both sides concerned. I clipped this short but excellent description of the man. It should be noted however we did not really get help from the French Government until after Saratoga, and trend that we just might win. Lafayette however felt more passionate.

"There is no doubt that the Marquis de Lafayette loved the thirteen American states. It should be remembered by all Americans that, without this young man's help, America would be an entirely different country. As an example, he wrote his wife in April of 1777:

"The happiness of America is intimately connected with the happiness of all mankind; she is destined to become the safe and venerable asylum of virtue, of honesty, of tolerance, and quality and of peaceful liberty."

Later he wrote to Henry Laurens, then President of Congress:

"The moment I heard of America I loved her; the moment I knew she was fighting for freedom I burnt with a desire of bleeding for her; and the moment I shall be able to serve her, at any time, or in any part of the world, will be the happiest of my life."

At the time the Marquis was about 19 years old. He wanted passionately to help and be a member of the American Army. So, with the recommendation of Silas Deane, then serving as an Envoy to France, to grant Lafayette a commision in the "Army of the United States," Layfayette set out to find the American Army.

If you take a look at The Arms of La Fayette you will see the words, "Cur Non?" For all of you having trouble with the Latin, this phrase means, "why not?" This signified Lafayette's attitude when people would ask why he would choose to leave the safety of France and the luxury of his birthright."

That was the man Lafayette was, He was cut from the same stuff as Charles Martel "The Hammer" Who fought the hordes of 400,000 Muslims from Spain who wished to destroy French culture. Lafayette, and Martel have nothing but my highest esteem. They both knew it is better to die on your feet, then live on your knees. Something not very alive today in a government of France that prostitutes itself by supplying weapons to the worst countries of the world while shouting "peace" when those customers are threatened.

I Do hate the French Government and do not see anything usefully done by any of the 100's of governments they have had and that have failed because of their disunity over the last 100 years. Chirac couldn't even go to a Cite...a French Slum this year without being fire bombed by his own people. People never even held accountable for that. Can you imagine that happening to an American president in the United States? Even in our worst areas? For those Frenchmen who keep speaking to us of Lafayette, I'm heartened you remember such a valiant Frenchman.....why don't you consider living up to him? Why not stand with those who oppose the evil of the oppressive regime? Why not stand up to the spiraling crime in France that your Government will not stop out of liberal victimization views. Why not stand up to the masses who cry out for "peace" at one hand but then look the other way when your government brings misery by selling arms to unstable regions? Why not see if there is any Lafayette, or Charles Martel in you? "Cur Non?"

Racial hateness (like francophobia) is the beginning of nazism.

France was the first country to abolish the slavery.
Long before the USA. Black men were stritly equal in rights to whites.

Louisiana, the biggest part of you territory, was sold to USA by France, after hepling you in the war gainst England.

We have lost the second world war, with 500000 deaths because France wasn't enough big to loss 20 000 000 death like Russia, against germany. It would have be 50% of the population. During the fisrt world war world war, the young population of some parts of the country nearly disapeard, killed in the war.

Racism, antisemitism, francophobia is always the same. Francophobia is for the Anglosphere what antisemitism was for germany in the 1930.

Racial hateness (like francophobia) is the beginning of nazism.

France was the first country to abolish the slavery.
Long before the USA. Black men were stritly equal in rights to whites.

Louisiana, the biggest part of you territory, was sold to USA by France, after hepling you in the war gainst England.

We have lost the second world war, with 500000 deaths because France wasn't enough big to loss 20 000 000 death like Russia, against germany. It would have be 50% of the population. During the fisrt world war world war, the young population of some parts of the country nearly disapeard, killed in the war.

Racism, antisemitism, francophobia is always the same. Francophobia is for the Anglosphere what antisemitism was for germany in the 1930.

First exceuse me for my english... But I'm french.
I am proud to be french, as american's are proud to be americans, and english to be english ....And it seems to be normal, because I grew up in this country, with this culture, which was great (I hope nobody says the opposite).
I'm always exasperated when someone tells about the people of a country... The french are like that, the american's are like that... I'ts so stupid...I challenge anyone to paint the whole population of a country like that... Only sky news could do that, but you all knows that they are liars, stupids, depraved ...except journalist...
About our history, we had some great moments, some bad... like all countries. But hte french history could'nt be resumed in 2 sentances....When some of you says we had 100's bad government's... first the number is false, meaning that the author don't know naything about the french government's... Myself I could have a thoughtless idea about the last 5 american's présidents, and the 5 last british prime minister's.
About the coarse "against french" racism. We don't mind in France. A few people look at sky TV (the porno chanel), read the sun... So we don't mind.....And we certainly don't do the same against people who utter those insults.. In fact they are just ignored like they have to be.

Regarding the last "irak's war". There are two strange things... For the first war we were with the american's, and we were in gulf... Nobody at those times said that we were traitor... Today some people say that we've always been traitors... They just forget.... except.... and probably don't know anything about what they are speaking.
Myself I think that If France, germany, China , russia, ... and about 90% of the countries didn't follow the us... They , maybe had good reasons, or some reasons you can speak about without insults.
Secondly. It's wrong to say that France was against america... France just wanted , like other countries, that a coalition had a UN mandat... Is it too much to ask for a war. If it's too much why are americans today asking for such a mandat to the UN to make a coalition to help them in tha "after war".

France has a vote in the UN.And that's the right to France to say no, like did russia, china....To be a democracy is not just an epithet. What does it mean if you have a right to vote, and you cannot use it...
Everybody knows today, that If America have had the majority in the coucil, they had put france to use the veto.... But in fact, chili and others countries were too against the war, they said that before the vote, and american's had no majority, so they stopped the processus.
I think that America is a great country, who helped us in hard times... I think that america has too a great responsability... I agree with teh fact that it was honest from some countries to say to america...You are in the wrong way... you'll have problems... You'll win that's sure... but only the battle..... Do you really think that it was bad advices!!!

Perhaps you are happy that Spain backed the war on Iraq. They say spanish culture is wellcomed everywhere in the U.S.partly because of that. In France there were about 70% percent of the population opposing war. Well. In Spain according to opinion polls and syrveys it was about 91% percent.
In Europe we opposed the war because we think the whole stuff about the WMD was nothing but a lie.

Do you really think if Saddam really had those wMD any american president would put at risk the lifes of thousands of american soldiers?? Oh America, how naiv you are!!

If you want to know the real reasons look in Sawdi Arabia.

Regards wil4

Incredible how a small insignificant country like france is so talked about...

That is so good for us....

France is a terrible wast of time. "It's a country that has exerted more of its national will fighting against Disney World and Big Macs than against the Nazis"
- Dennis Miller-
Screw bombing Iraq, I say we invade and own France, it'll be an easier victory than Desert Storm I.

Today, 12-14-03 the French weep as their Hero and idol Saddam Insane is captured. Maybe he could now move to France where they would revel in stories of mass graves and the slaughter of millions of innocent people. It’s a sad..sad day for the frogs.

France is a womb for slimy, fork tongued, deceitful, coniving, collaborating tossers with less backbone than their closest relative - the snake. They have collaborated against this nation at every opportunity - yes, including the falklands when they were caught trying (and on two occasions succeeding) arming the Argentines with Exocet missiles to use against us. Right now they are bending over for Germany like they have always done, then licking up the remains. They will side with anyone who poses a threat in the hope that they will be attacked last. In their mind its better to be in the devils hand than in his way. They can never be trusted. Anyone who sincerely believes they have a powerhouse economy is deluded, anyone who thinks they are a nation of their own right is deluded, they (once again) are the lapdogs of their neighbours, barking on command but without bite.

Our leaders here at the moment are no better. Selling us out for a free meal ticket. First chance I get, I'm an American. They are far from perfect but at least they have identity and national pride and are not afraid to defend themselves from aggressors rather than spreading their legs and screaming "take me"!

Once Upon A Time...
Once upon a time in a nice little forest, there lived an orphaned bunny and an orphaned snake. By a surprising coincidence, both were blind from birth.

One day, the bunny was hopping through the forest, and the snake was slithering through the forest, when the bunny tripped over the snake and fell down. This, of course, knocked the snake about quite a bit.

"Oh, my," said the bunny, "I'm terribly sorry. I didn't mean to hurt you. I've been blind since birth, so, I can't see where I'm going. In fact, since I'm also an orphan, I don't even know what I am."

"It's quite OK," replied the snake. "Actually, my story is much the same as yours. I, too, have been blind since birth, and also never knew my mother. Tell you what, maybe I could slither all over you, and work out what you are, so at least you'll have that going for you."

"Oh, that would be wonderful" replied the bunny. So the snake slithered all over the bunny, and said, "Well, you're covered with soft fur; you have really long ears; your nose twitches; and you have a soft cottony tail. I'd say that you must be a bunny rabbit."

"Oh, thank you! Thank you," cried the bunny, in obvious excitement. The bunny suggested to the snake, "Maybe I could feel you all over with my paw, and help you the same way that you've helped me."

So the bunny felt the snake all over, and remarked, "Well, you're smooth and slippery, and you have a forked tongue, no backbone and no balls. I'd say you must be French".
(from I hate France.com)

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Why detester France. We have the right to think différement. Moreover you made worse than better with Iraq. Cheer you cane to still awake a large nest islamist cheer.

With the fact with the front passage in North America it y' had more than 7 million Indians now they are that a handle you have also blood on the hands to have made a genocide

Ariok you have no idea what you are talking about!!! Awoken the islamic nest?? It was already awake when it slaughtered 3000 innocents!! People not on the battlefield but in their workplace! The French bend over for whichever hostile nation comes their way, they get very brave with the friendly ones though... much easier that is isnt it?? They are power hungry (along with the Germans), that is the only reason why they are desperate for the EU. They hate us which is why they want to take us over under the false banner of international unity. They are cowards - pure and simple, ready to insult their supposed allies but cower with fear at hostile nations or peoples. They cannot be trusted. Picture this... if this country was attacked in the manner of 9/11.. does anyone really believe that our European 'partners' would lift a finger to help?? Not for one moment.. they would sit by smiling and gloating as they did when the twin towers went down.. the first friendly voices would be American. They are our only true friends in times of crisis.. believe it people. Let me repeat what I stated before.. the French were caught arming the Argentines with Exocet missiles to be used against us... our supposed friends arming the enemy!!! As far as I am concerned, that itself was an act of war from France upon us and that act must never be forgotten.

This message summarises some bad things that the USA has done. Please don't forget all of the good things they have done. The good things are not listed here because they are so well known. So this web page is not balanced. It isn't intended to be. (I don't have the time to write out all the good things about the USA. If you want a balanced appraisal of the USA, you could start here.)

The purpose of this web page is not to make people hate the USA.
The purpose of this web page is to help US Americans understand why their country is hated by so many people.

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Since 2001-9-11, US citizens have been asking ``Why do they hate us so much?'' For most US citizens, this is a rhetorical question. They don't really want to know why. They just want to voice their belief that they are the best country in the world and that they have never done anything wrong. On the contrary - so they say they believe - they have been the most generous and helpful country in the world. Unfortunately, the facts are quite different. The USA is very good at media manipulation. Their propaganda techniques would have made Goebbels faint with delight. The USA has helped the world, but just as often, they have helped themselves - to the resources and well-being of the world. US foreign policy is openly based completely on ``national self-interest'', not international cooperation. The only kind of cooperation the USA understands is where other countries ``cooperate'' with the USA - i.e. other countries must do what the USA tells them to do or else.
Having good advertising/propaganda technique is not in itself a bad thing, but it does mean that US citizens can't see the world clearly from within their own environment. The USA is in many ways an excellent country. The problem is just that this is so often at cost to the rest of the world, both in wealth and lives. State-of-the-art media manipulation ensures that most US citizens don't know what is being done in their name.

Starting on 2001-12-21, I'll start writing out the reasons why most people in the world hate the USA. (I wrote down 42 reasons in the first 2 hours of writing.) These reasons will not be in order of strength of hate. Please ignore the order. I'm just using a numbering so that I can count the reasons easily. The thing that made me realise that US Americans aren't aware of the USA's misdeeds was an interview in which their president said he couldn't think of a single reason why anyone would hate the USA. (I hope his staff have given him some clues since then. If not, he can read this web page.) US Americans genuinely don't understand how much evil they do because they have a blind spot for their own evil.

About 3000 innocent civilians were killed on 2001-9-11. This is a tiny token compared the suffering inflicted on the world by the USA. (Perhaps I should also mention that the murder rate in the USA is about 80 per million per annum, which is about 20,000 per annum for the whole country. So the deaths on 2001-9-11 were less than a typical 2 months of murders in the USA. The murder rate in Australia is only about 20 per million per annum because we have strict gun control laws.)

The United States sees all world issues with one eye closed. US citizens see only what is good about themselves and their client states and what is bad in others. But they should open the other eye too - and see the evil in themselves and the good in others.

In the USA, it is said that ``the terrorists hate the democracy and freedom of the USA and the West''. This is complete garbage. Anyone with more than 5 neurons working in their brain knows that this is garbage. People worldwide admire the good things of the USA and hate the bad things. US citizens must do some homework to find out what crimes, barbarism and atrocities are committed in their name. It's the same old story - the people are good, but the government is bad. The difference in a democracy is that the people choose their government (more or less). So in a democracy, the people are responsible for the crimes and evil of their government. People who trumpet the virtues of their democracy should remember that they are responsible for the crimes of their government. There are so many good people in the USA, isn't it a shame they're not running the country.

The USA has built up a deep reservoir of hate against it. The reservoir of hate has become much deeper since 2001-9-11. Sometimes the dam wall breaks a little. But if the USA does not open its eyes soon, the dam wall will burst wide open and unleash the entire reservoir. The suicide hijackings are just the first in a series of anti-USA actions which are sure to continue. If you whip an angry lion, it does not lie down and roll over. A country which has a ``shoot'em up'' approach to world politics should not be surprised when some of their victims take the same attitude. Since the USA has been terrorizing the world for the last 100 years, they can't be surprised if a little terror blows back at them. If the USA continues to treat the other countries of the world as some sort of naughty provinces, they could soon find that no US citizen will be safe without bodyguards in almost any part of the world.

Massive war crimes in Vietnam war: The mass murder of well over 1 million innocent Vietnamese civilians during the Vietnam war was an act of mass state terrorism. (The USA also used chemical weapons such as dioxins in this aggressive war.) The USA should have been forced to pay hundreds of billions of dollars of reparations for their war crimes. But instead, the USA imposed horrendous trade sanctions on Vietnam which led to mass starvation for many years. At the same time, the USA forced the Vietnamese to put a humiliating amount of effort into finding decades-old corpses of American war criminals. Hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian Vietnamese died without their bodies being recovered. But US citizens are capable of feeling no sympathy for any people other than their own. They think that one American is worth a thousand foreigners.
Destruction of democracy in Chile: The removal of the freely elected democratic government of Chile by the CIA, including the bombing of the presidential palace (on another September 11), followed by the murder of thousands of innocent civilians. This proves that the USA is not in favour of democracy.
Embargo of Cuba but not China or Saudi Arabia: Decades of embargo of the popular government of Cuba, while the USA gives most favoured nation status to China, which is one of the most undemocratic governments in the world. The support for China and Saudi Arabia is purely in the US self-interest. The dislike of Cuba by the USA is really due to the fact that Cuba does not bow to the USA.
Preference for totalitarian China, not democratic Taiwan: For a few decades now, the USA has been cooperating with China in the international ostracism of Taiwan. Although Taiwan is a democratic country and China is a totalitarian dictatorship, the USA takes the side of China. This is because the USA wants access to China's markets for its big capitalists. This shows that the USA is against democracy. The USA actually prefers to have totalitarian dictatorships as allies, as has been shown for many decades around the world. The USA is not pro-democracy. The USA is just pro-big-capitalist. How can anyone believe that the USA prefers democracy when they see them isolate Taiwan so as to be friendly towards China.
Dismantling the British Empire: After the second world war, the USA forced the United Kingdom to empty its vaults of gold to give to the USA. As a result, the British had punishing rationing and serious poverty for many years after 1945. There had been an agreement between Churchill and the USA that the ``lend-lease'' scheme for ships and supplies for the UK was a way of getting the USA to participate in the war although most of the population of the USA were essentially pro-German. The USA entered the 2nd world war when it was in their interests to do so. And after the war, they went back on their deal to convert lend-lease to a gift, because they wanted to force the UK to dismantle its empire. This is still deeply resented by older people in the UK. The British Empire was dismantled, many dozens of countries fell into utter chaos, and the USA became the dominant country in the world. Many people think that the reason Britain has been the USA's poodle since 1945 is the fact that a large amount of this ``debt'' has not yet been paid. But morally, it is the USA which owes the debt.
Total devotion to Israel despite slaughter and land theft from Palestinians: The USA continues to protect, encourage and finance the apartheid colony of Israel in its crimes against humanity in Palestine. The USA blocks every humane gesture by the United Nations. The USA encourages and financially supports the slaughter of several hundred innocent people in Palestine every year by the Israeli death squads seeking Lebensraum. It is clear that the USA's ruling class is in love with Israel. They are blinded by love. [If the Palestinians all converted to Christianity, the scales would fall from the eyes of the US Americans. Then they would realise that the Palestinians are human beings.] The occupied West Bank of Jordan resembles the Warsaw Ghetto of World War II. The occupied West Bank is a slave colony of the jewish Israelis. But deeds which were evil when the Germans did them in WW2 are now encouraged every day by the USA when the Israeli land thieves do them. Seeing the enthusiastic US American support for Israelis turning innocent Palestinians into mincemeat is the principal cause of worldwide muslim anger against the USA. (Jewish intellectuals, as individuals, are the best people in the world in my opinion, but the Israeli apartheid regime has soiled the name of all good jewish people.)
Causing the `Asian meltdown' through oppressive loan conditions: Enforcement of completely inappropriate and humiliating conditions on Thailand through the IMF, which is controlled by the USA. In the ``Asian crisis'' of about 1997, the currency of Thailand collapsed, due to the sudden withdrawal of huge amounts of capital, mostly by the USA. As a result, there was massive unemployment, thousands of people committed suicide, and the misery continues to this day. The IMF forced Thailand to carry out even more inappropriate measures after the crisis, whereas Malaysia refused the IMF commands. Malaysia's economy improved quickly but Thailand's did not. The economies of Vietnam and China hardly noticed the ``Asian meltdown'', because they did not follow the IMF commands.
Support for Pol Pot genocide: The USA backed Pol Pot with arms, training, finance and full diplomatic support for over a decade. This was one of the worst regimes in history, which killed over 1/3 of the population of the country. But the USA supported Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge as they continued to commit atrocities and destroy the country of Cambodia with land mines. The rise of Pol Pot started when the USA was illegally bombing huge areas of Cambodia, intentionally killing vast numbers of innocent civilians. The USA has never apologized for these crimes. Nor has the USA apologized for committing the same crimes against Laos.
Colonization of Hawaii: The USA colonized and annexed Hawaii. The USA should decolonise this independent nation. This proves that the USA is not anti-colonization.
Training of terrorists in Latin America: The USA funds a terrorist training school called the ``School of the Americas''.
Funding, weapons and training for Nicaraguan terrorists: The USA gave huge amounts of funding to terrorists in Nicaragua who killed hundreds of thousands of Nicaraguans in the 1980s with guns and mines on farmland. Tens of thousands of innocent civilians lost their legs or were maimed in other ways. When there was finally an election along US-approved lines, the USA said the vote was not fair and would not be recognized - until it emerged that their side won, and then they immediately announced that the election was completely fair. (The previous election which brought the Sandinistas to power was recognized by official European observors and everyone else as free and fair. But the people didn't elect a a pro-capitalist government. So the US rejected the election as flawed. This is because US governments think that democracy and pro-capitalism are the same thing.)
Illegal mining of Managua harbour: The USA illegally mined Managua harbour. When the USA was taken to the international court for this and the USA lost the case, the USA immediately withdrew its recognition of the court, even though it had agreed by treaty to give at least 6 months notice of withdrawal of recognition. The USA clearly believes that only other countries need to abide by international agreements. The USA is exempt from all international law.
Culturally offensive behaviour overseas: The USA is generally hated for its citizens' Disneyland attitude to tourism. When US citizens travel abroad, they often think that everything is a kind of theme park for them to photograph and denigrate. US citizens talk loudly and coarsely when overseas. They abuse and insult the women. They think that their money gives them the right to do anything they want. The US ignorance of foreign cultures and languages is legendary. Americans get irate when people of other countries can' speak fluent English. It is true that many US Americans are very polite, considerate and civilised when overseas. Some of them even speak a non-English language! But the US Americans who make the the most impression are the loud and lusty ones.
Lack of empathy for suffering in poor countries: US citizens have absolutely no comprehension of how much other countries suffer. A typical attitude is shown by some US women who see news stories of third world countries where people are starving and say things like: ``Ooh, I'd die for that slim figure.''
Arrogant, conceited nationalism: US citizens have a general attitude that they are rich because they are superior. This is totally explicitly stated, especially on ceremonial occasions. The reason the USA is rich is for many reasons, including very successful exploitation of other countries, the fact that they came into World Wars I and II very late when other countries were exhausted, the geographical isolation of the USA, the fertile land which they took from the indigenous people (whom they largely exterminated), and their homogeneous language and culture.
Imposition of unfair conditions of trade: Throughout the 1990s, the USA has been imposing ``globalisation'' on the whole world. This is a propaganda term which means americanisation of culture, economics and politics. All countries are forced to cut back on all public services and social welfare as the US has done, and every country must accept anything that the US wants to export, no matter how much this harms the economies of non-US countries. This often means that even valid health objections are rejected by the USA. When other countries succeed in exporting to the USA, e.g. farm goods at 1/3 the cost of production, the USA puts on heavy tariffs and gives substantial support to US farmers. Current estimates are that 50% of US farm income comes from the government. The USA does not permit any other country to do this. When other countries object, the USA wrangles in courts for years until so much damage is done that the issue is no longer relevant. The so-called ``globalisation'' ideology is making poor countries poorer and the USA richer.
Theft of Spanish lands in America: The USA stole vast areas of land from the Spanish empire to create California, Texas etc.
Support for Indonesian massacre of Chinese: The USA approved the Suharto government's killing of about 500,000 Chinese Indonesians who were suspected of being communist sympathisers.
Support for Indonesian invasion and massacre of East Timor: The US government gave the go-ahead to the Indonesian government to invade East Timor in 1975. This resulted in the several hundred thousand deaths of innocent civilians, with US approval.
Invasion of Haiti: Invasion of Haiti to install US choice of government.
Invasion of Panama: Invasion of Panama to get just one guy, Noriega, who happened to be a CIA employee who was conducting most of the cocaine trade from South America into the USA. US forces killed many innocent people.
Invasion of Grenada: Invasion of Grenada in 1983 to install pro-US government. This was part of Reagan's foreign actions to make US citizens feel proud again. (The USA really should find ways of feeling good that don't involve making foreigners into mincemeat.)
Attempted invasion of Cuba: Unsuccessful invasion of Cuba (1961) to install pro-US-capitalist government. Large numbers of people pointlessly killed for ideological/economic reasons, with no apology. In 2002, the US government still hates Cuba more than any country. The USA takes a very, very long time to forgive countries which successfully resist (and thereby humiliate) the US Empire. (Others include Iran and Vietnam.)
Forcing poor countries to import US tobacco: In many countries, especially in Asia, the USA has forced governments to accept imports of US tobacco as a condition of normalising trade. And in some countries, the USA insisted that since they had to catch up for lost sales of cigarettes in the past, they should be allowed to conduct big advertising campaigns. They insisted on this despite the fact that many of these countries had already banned cigarette advertising for health reasons. Therefore the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Asians is due to these disgusting ``fair trade'' conditions by the USA.
Support for Muslim terrorists in Afghanistan: Support of muslim fanatics in Afghanistan to kill Russians and other Soviet citizens. The Russian presence improved the quality and equality of life in Afghanistan. As a result of US actions in Afghanistan, huge numbers of Russian conscripts were killed, the country's political system collapsed, and the political vacuum was filled by US client groups who violated human rights on a vast scale with US support, knowledge and acquiescence.
Support for Iraqi war crimes and weapons of mass destruction: Support for Iraqi aggresion against Iran in the Iraq-Iran war of the 1980s, despite the very well-known fact that Iraq attacked Iran pre-emptively without warning from the air in the expectation of destroying all of Iran's planes on the ground and occupying all of Iran. The Iraqis killed as many as 1 million Iranians. The Iraqis used chemical and biological weapons with US knowledge and acquiescence because of the US desire to punish Iran. (This shows that the USA is in favour of the use of `weapons of mass destruction' by its clients, allies and stooges.) The USA never forgives a country which has beaten or humiliated the USA. In punishment for the Iranians taking 50 US citizens hostage for 1 year, the USA strongly supported and assisted the murder of millions of Iranians. The USA still has punishing sanctions against Iran for no good reason.
While siding with Iraq against Iran, the US shot down an Iranian passenger plane, killing hundreds of people, even though it was clear from all sources of information that it was a civilian plane. Some trigger-happy naval officer shot it down before thinking. This is the problem with giving the muscles of a giant to someone with the mind of a child. The USA just so easily wipes out hundreds, thousands or millions of lives without consequences to itself. The same trigger-happy reckless behaviour has been shown by the US military in all conflicts. But when anything happens to a US citizen, there's hypocritical moral outrage.
Killing thousands of innocent poor Afghans: In the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan, the USA, looking for a small group of bandits, has shot up the whole country, causing a massive increase in starvation and other suffering. When several hundred (about 350) Taleban surrendered in one city, the USA used aerial bombing to kill every one of them, even though they were unarmed and had surrendered. This is a very serious war crime under the Geneva convention. Combatants are required to ``give quarter'', but the USA has operated an explicit policy of taking no prisoners. They stated that they intended all al Qaida and Taliban to be killed. The USA should be brought before war crimes tribunals for these crimes, but the USA will refuse to even think about this possibility. In fact, the US government has passed a law to impose sanctions on any country which cooperates with the International Criminal Court, and they have passed a law to indemnify all US war criminals from any legal action. Thus the USA has declared that it is free to commit war crimes with impunity. (2002-12-19: It has emerged that the USA was responsible for the murder of about 8000 Taliban who had surrendered. This is why the USA is so afraid of the International Criminal Court. They are as bad as the Serbs were in the 1990s.) (2003-3-24: The US government says that the Iraqis must abide by the Geneva convention in the treatment of US prisoners. But the USA denied Geneva convention rights to thousands of Afghan prisoners from 2001. After more than a year, these prisoners are still being maltreated in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. This shows once again that all countries in the world must obey international conventions - all countries except the USA.) After tearing up the Geneva Convention in regard to Afghanistan, the USA complained loudly about extremely minor matters in their illegal war of aggression against Iraq in 2003, for example when photos of prisoners were shown on TV, which is not actually against the Geneva Convention. The USA insists that other countries must very precisely obey international conventions, but the USA never accepts that international law applies to them.
Monopoly of GPS systems for world military dominance: The USA is currently (late 2001) preventing Europe from starting its own GPS system. They say it is against US interests. Indeed it is. If the US goes to war with any country, it can use ``Selective Availability'' to remove GPS capability from any region of the earth - but the USA military have the decryption codes to use the GPS even if it is rendered completely useless to other nations. This makes it more difficult for non-US countries to aim cruise missiles, but it also cripples air travel and sea travel within the region. This power over the whole world is awesome, and the US cannot be trusted with this power. And now they are trying to stop Europe from taking away the US monopoly. The USA is always against any other country having any sort of monopoly, but fiercely defends its own monopolies.
Unequal trade in defence contracts: The USA requires other countries to permit US companies to bid for defence contracts, and they are believed to use echelon intercepts to find out the bids of their opposition. But foreign countries are not allowed to bid on US contracts mostly, because the US only trusts US citizens to work on US defence projects.
Corrupt, undemocratic US voting system: When other countries have slight irregularities in voting procedures, the USA takes this as a pretext to impose heavy trade sanctions. But often these irregularities are caused mostly by ignorance or misunderstandings. But in the 2000 election in the USA, thousands of African Americans were turned back from the polls in Florida because the officials knew that they would vote for the Democrats. As a result the candidate with the second-most votes was selected to be president. This kind of outright racism and election fixing would be regarded as unacceptable in third world countries. A new election would be required, but in the USA, the ``national interest'' required that the irregularities be ignored. The hypocrisy of US government lectures on democracy to other countries is shown by the widespread gerrymanders, ``first past the post'' voting, and ``electoral colleges'' in the USA.
Corrupt political lobbying in the USA: The US lectures other countries on cronyism, but has the worst case of crony capitalism in the world. The US government gives in to corporate lobbying on all subjects, including the protection of US farmers and industries from free world trade. The jewish lobbying causes the US government to support horrible human rights abuses in occupied Palestine. The USA's form of government could be accurately described as ``policy payola''.
Rejection/sabotage of international standards: Whenever an international standard develops for anything, the USA tries to undermine it. Just one example is the adoption of GSM, which was invented in Europe. The US ideology demanded that there should be multiple competing digital mobile phone technologies because pointless competition is part of the USA's culture. As a result, the USA ended up with an appalling mess in mobile telephony whereas the rest of the world got the very successful GSM. Just like IBM had a long history of thwarting every attempt to build industry-wide standards in the computer industry (they only attended standards meeting to sabotage and delay any standards), so the USA tries to prevent the emergence of all world standards. The USA regards international standards as a threat to its world dominance. International standards are ``not the US national interest''.
One-sided world spy system: The USA has a world-wide spying system called ``echelon'', operated in conjunction with the English-speaking AUSCANNZUKUS alliance. [That's AUS+CAN+NZ+UK+US in alphabetical order. Clever little acronym, isn't it!] This is used to give the USA economic supremacy and political advantage by listening in to all phone calls in the world. The USA has recently passed laws to give it authority over all computer traffic (Internet) which passes through US territory. They have given themselves extra-territorial jurisdiction over supposed computer crimes committed with no connection at all with the USA. Extra-territorial jurisdiction is very much hated by other countries. The USA never accepts extra-territorial jurisdiction by other countries, as shown by the case where France required Yahoo to not sell Nazi memorabilia to French citizens. A US court overturned this.
Denial of data security and computer technology to poor countries: For many decades, the US has operated an international cartel of capitalist countries to deny strong encryption and powerful computers to any country which the US has any sort of disagreement with. This has helped to impoverish many other countries.
Secretly breaking its own trade boycotts to gain advantage: When the USA organised an international boycott of selling wheat to the USSR in 1980, the USA secretly agreed with the boycotted countries that the USA would get all of their contracts after the boycott was lifted. Thus countries like Australia which went along with the boycott lost all their markets to the USA after the boycott was lifted. This was very much hated in Australia. The USA also mucked up the whole 1980 Olympics because of their objection to the USSR entry into Afghanistan. If this is how the USA treats its allies, its a wonder that the USA has any allies at all.
Bullying low-crime countries to accept gun proliferation: The USA tries to export its gun culture/obsession to other countries. US lobby groups send missionaries to other countries, such as Australia, to strengthen opposition to gun laws. Since the USA has about 4 times the per capita murder rate of Australia, this is not a very good idea for Australia. But the USA thinks that their constitution is the best in the world, and anyone who is different must be stupid. They also like to sell more guns. So they interfere with the sovereignty of other nations by stirring up and supporting anti-gun-law lobbyists in other countries. The USA uses totally moronic slogans like ``guns don't kill people; people kill people'' to help push their gun culture. But they don't say ``cocain and marihuana don't kill people; people kill people''. You should never listen to any justification the USA gives for any policy. They have only one policy motive, which is naked self-interest: greed and lust for power.
Cultural domination through extra-territorial copyright law: The US imposes its laws against music and video copying throughout the world, excerising extra-territorial `jurisdiction'. Because of the use by pathetically weak encryption by the US music and film industry, the USA has a law called the DMCA, which forbids decryption of music and videos. But people in Europe and Russia have decrypted these formats. Therefore these people are prosecuted in the USA for acts which are legal in other countries. One prominent example is the CSS encryption, which enables US companies to charge more in Europe than in the USA, Asia or Europe, for instance. It also prevents linux users from playing video disks. This kind of market distortion is the opposite to globalisation and is anti-competitive. This shows that the USA lies when they say they are in favour of globalisation and free competition. They are only in favour of globalisation and free competition in market sectors where the USA is strong. In the markets where the USA is weak, they enforce anti-competitive and anti-trade protectionist measures, and laws to distort markets in their favour. The USA has unilaterally extended the 28 years of copyright protection which used to be the international norm to 50 and now to 70 years. (Some people say, probably correctly, that this is to satisfy Disney and such companies.) Then the USA forces their one-sided interests on everyone else. (Here's a news item on this.)
Environmental delinquency: The USA unilaterally withdrew from the climate treaty, because it was not in the US short-term interest to cooperate with other countries. This is despite the fact that the USA has about the same standard of living as western Europe with about twice the per capita energy consumption. The USA is just an extremely inefficient consumer of fuel, which forces to the rest of the world to use less. The USA wants other countries to make economic sacrifices to help the USA, but not vice versa.
Unilateral withdrawal from ABM treaty: The USA is unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty out of perceived self-interest. I think that the Russians have not objected to this because they know that the USA is just wasting its money. But the USA wants to have complete impunity to bomb any country in the world back into the stone age, like Afghanistan, without any risk at all of retaliation.
Economic subjugation and megadeath through extra-territorial patent law: The USA insists that patent law should be sacred world-wide when the USA wants to maximize its profits from AIDS treatment drugs. As a result, millions of people are dying needlessly world-wide in poor countries. But when the USA wanted to get some cheap anti-anthrax drugs because about 3 people in the USA had died, then on the grounds of national emergency, the USA said that they should be able to override the patents just to get a price reduction for a drug which they could well afford. This has outraged people worldwide who see that the value of a USA citizen is a million times greater than that of citizens of other countries, in the USA's view.
War crimes in Germany in WW2: Participation in the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of civilians in terrorist attacks on Germany in the Second World War.
First use of nuclear weapons in Japan in WW2: Use of nuclear weapons against hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Japan in the second world war. This was not how the war ended actually. The Japanese had been trying very hard to surrender, but the US refused to accept their surrender because they wanted to try out the nuclear weapons which were ready too late for the European theatre for which they were intended. Thus the USA prolonged the war with Japan so as to be able to test the effects of nuclear weapons on hundreds of thousands of civilians. This is definitely a war crime.
War crimes against Japan in WW2: The USA fire-bombed Tokyo, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, simply with the intention of terrorising the population. This is a serious war crime.
Murder of innocent thousands in Sudan: President Clinton ordered the bombing of a Sudanese pharmaceuticals factory, thinking erroneously that it was for producing some sort of armaments. Several hundred people were killed in this. Then the USA put trade restrictions on Sudan so that pharmaceuticals could not be imported. As a result, since that time many tens of thousands of additional people have died of malaria because that factory was producing anti-malaria drugs. This crime in itself was much more serious than the 2001-9-11 suicide hijacking.
Energy wastage: In terms of energy efficiency, the USA has about the same standard of living as Western Europe but with twice the consumption of energy. As a result, the USA has to control world oil prices so as to maintain its standard of living. On top of this, they refuse to restrict their pollution of the atmosphere. Controlling oil prices requires hegemony over the oil-producing countries, which is partly why the US helps the apartheid regime of Israel acquire weapons of mass destruction.
Support for Irish terrorism: For the last 30 years, the USA has been the principle funder of the Irish terrorists who have been killing both civilians and soldiers trying to keep the peace in Northern Ireland. This shows that the USA only objects to terrorists who are muslim and anti-USA. The anti-british northern Irish terrorists are pro-USA. So the USA sends them lots of money and political support to kill the English in Britain and the protestants in northern Ireland. This shows that the USA very definitely will not declare a war on all terrorists.
Callous, calculated delay in WW2 participation: During the Second World War, the USA was originally planning to send about 215 army divisions to Europe in 1943 to remove the Nazis. But they worked out that this would affect their economy. So they changed their plans and sent only 90 divisions in 1944. As a result, the US economy improved during the World War II, while the economy of Europe contracted by about 25%. during the extra year, several million more people died, including a few million people in concentration camps such as the European Jews. This proves that the USA values its own economy much more than the lives of millions of innocent people in other countries. The US entry into WW2 was in the US interests, not an altruistic act. Until Pearl Harbour, the US was pro-nazi. The US only decided to take the side of democracy in Europe when it was clearly in the USA's self-interest to do so.
Support for Jewish terrorism in creation of the Colony of Israel: When the Jewish terrorists killed British and Palestinian people in 1945-1948, the USA gave full support to the terrorists to create a colony out of the land stolen from the Palestinians. The USA supported, financed and harboured these terrorists. Clearly the USA is pro-terrorist. Menachim Begin was one of the terrorists who bombed the King David Hotel in Palestine, and yet the USA gave him full support. In the same way, the USA fully supports the war criminal Ariel Sharon now. Isn't it odd that the country which receives the strongest and most unconditional US support in the world is a country which was created through terrorism? (Come to think of it, the USA itself was created through terrorism against the indigenous peoples, the British and the Mexicans.)
Wilful disregard of Ruandan genocide: When the US personnel in Ruanda knew that there was about to be a massacre, they quickly got all their people out of there and let the massacre happen, making almost no public comment while 800,000 people were murdered. The USA could have stopped it, but they were worried that US citizens might die as they did in Somalia. This must be what the US government means by moral leadership. US moral leadership means getting out of anything that is of no immediate benefit to the USA. One US citizen means more to the US government than 800,000 Ruandans. The US government pretended that they didn't know there was going to be a genocide, because then they would have been obliged under the Genocide Convention to do something about it. But revelations since then have shown that the government did know about it before and while it was happening.
Harrassing the creation of the International Criminal Court: The US government has done everything it can to hinder the establishment of an international court to prosecute war criminals and crimes against humanity because they are worried that they and their client states will be brought before this court. They have even passed a law to put sanctions on any country which cooperates with the international court. Once again, the USA uses extra-territorial quasi-legal measures to intimidate other countries, even their nominal friends and allies, as a way of achieving the USA's self-interest. In this case, the USA knows that it regularly commits war crimes all over the world. As a result, it will not be possible to bring war criminals of other nationalities to such a court. (PS. During July 2002, the USA has been threatening to close down all UN peacekeeping activities if their war crimes are not made immune to prosecution. This kind of abuse of the UN is reminiscent of Kruschev banging his shoe on the table to stop proceedings. The USA is now treating the UN as its own rubber stamp.)
Sex tourism by military and civilians: When US males travel overseas, they have only one principal objective, namely to have sex with as many local women as possible. US women should know that when their partners travel overseas, they spend all of their time and energy (and much of their money) trying to get sex with local women. This spreads diseases and unwanted children. US males tell lies to women to dupe them into having sex with them. This is true in all parts of the world, Asia, Europe, Australia, and everywhere else.
Resistance to globalisation of measurement units: While lecturing and bullying the rest of the world to accept US exports under the slogan of ``globalisation'', which really means Americanization of non-US economies, the USA refuses to globalise its measurement units. They still use the medieval units known as British Imperial measures even though 95% of the world has converted to modern decimal-based units (the metric or SI system) as developed in France during the 18th century. The USA is 200 years behind the rest of the world, but they keep bullying everyone else to be like them. It's time they showed some commitment to globalization and immediately removed all usage of miles, furlongs, acres, fahrenheit, feet, inches, pounds, ounces, imperial tons, hundredweight, stones, gallons and quarts. The old units are so quaint, but they are a serious impediment to world trade. Get moving, USA, and catch up with the rest of the world!!! Every other country has to produce everything in dual units for the USA. The USA claims to be very modern, but is in actual fact the most backward bountry in the world in measuring units. Everybody else in the world can cope with metric units. So why can't the USA cope?
Attempting to create/maintain world monopolies: One of the many clear examples of the USA creating or maintaining world monopolies is Boeing. In the last year or so, the European competitor Airbus Industrie announced they would build a very large passenger plane, and the US government said it wasn't fair competition because there was some government loan involved. But the USA gives huge tax advantages to its own capitalists so that they can compete unfairly with other countries. Boeing doesn't have the same burden to contribute to the social welfare that Airbus does in Europe. The Europeans believe that capitalists should pay tax to support the general social good, whereas the USA think that the ordinary taxpayers should support their industries. This gives the USA a strong edge in overseas markets because their taxpayers are subsidising their companies. Therefore it is fully justified for European governments to give a little money back to Airbus to partially compensate for the larger tax burden in Europe. Another way that the USA gives its capitalists an unfair advantage is through the use of the echelon spy system to acquire information on how the bidding is progressing for tenders for big projects, for example for aeroplane purchases. This kind of abuse of a supposed defence system for shafting the overseas competition is greatly resented, as are all of the unfair competitive malpractices of the USA.
Support for massacres by UNITA in Angola: The USA gave strong support to the UNITA terrorists (led by Jonas Savimbi) in Angola who massacred about 500,000 people in the most horrible way. The killings occurred especially after they lost free elections which they had agreed to. The reason the USA supported UNITA was the fact that the legitimate government was socialist. This is yet another proof that the USA's government is anti-democracy. Only pro-capitalist governments are supported by the USA. In fact, the USA always confuses laissez-faire economics with democracy. They think that any government that restricts capitalism in any way must be ``undemocratic''. The US-supported UNITA destroyed to economy of Angola, which otherwise would have been a very rich country. Any country which resists US laissez-faire economic ideology is opposed and crushed.
Export of catholic ideology, causing massive AIDS deaths: In order to get votes from the catholic anti-condom, anti-contraception, anti-abortion (and anti many other things) lobby, the US government impedes the use of condoms in poor countries which have a serious AIDS problem. Just as one example, Kenya has a very serious AIDS problem, but the US has cut off aid to organisations in Kenya making condoms available to prevent AIDS. The result in poor countries of this sort of policy is a vast increase in AIDS sickness and death. The USA say that they give a lot of foreign aid. But this is propaganda nonsense. The USA gives only about 0.1% of GDP in foreign aid, compared to 3 times that much for most western countries. Some western countries give as much as 1% of GDP in foreign aid. The USA is near the bottom of the league table in overseas aid. (But they're at the top of the league table in killing innocent civilians with bombs.) The consequence of the USA's negative attitude to contraception for poor countries is actually an increase in abortions because of unaffordable pregnancies. Logic has never been a strong point of US government policies. (GW Bush is known to have paid for an abortion for his girlfriend, which has been kept quiet by US media which are pro-Republican. See here and here.)
Export of American recreational drug choices: The USA insists that all other countries must follow the USA's ideology on recreational drugs, which means that tobacco and alcohol are okay, but hemp, heroin, cocain etc. are not permitted. Other countries have different ideas on which drugs to tolerate and which to ban. But the USA insists that all countries must accept the USA's choice of drugs and must reject all others. This is a little dictatorial. But it is also extremely hypocritical. Even presidents of the USA have taken drugs, such as gwb taking cocain. But the most recent example of the USA's weird attitudes towards drugs is Afghanistan. The Taliban reduced opium poppy production from 3300 tons to 180 tons (or something like that) in the last year, but the USA refused to remove sanctions that they imposed to force the reduction in poppy production. (I believe the 180 tons was produced in the area not under the control of the Taleban - it was produced in the area controlled by the US allies, the Northern Alliance.) So the Taleban did exactly as asked, but the USA refused to remove the sanctions. But now that the Taleban's opponents (the USA's allies) have taken over, poppy production is back up again, and the USA is taking Afghanistan off its list of nations which produce bad drugs. So just as the heroin production goes up, the USA removes the sanctions. It's just astonishing that the US thinks that everyone should take them seriously on drugs. If they were really serious about stopping drugs, they would follow the course of the Netherlands and Switzerland, which are having serious success in combatting drugs.
USA is protectionist - but everybody else must accept free trade: In March 2002, the USA put up to 30% tariffs on steel imports to protect the inefficient US steel industry and get votes for the next election. The USA's propagandists have been on the airwaves explaining why this is a good thing. Unfortunately, the arguments they have used in favour of US protectionism, if true, are even more true for the poor countries of the world. If a rich country like the USA needs to protect its industries, then surely the poor countries have even more need. This is just typical of the USA's approach to politics - first work out what's in the USA's self-interest, then muster the arguments to support the decision. But if the same arguments are used to defend the actions of any other country, they are rejected. Somehow free trade is supposed to be good for every country in the world, but protectionism of the farm sector, the steel sector etc., is good for the USA. People in the USA just can't remember the arguments they used last month for last month's policies. The ``right argument'' for the USA is always the argument which benefits the USA this month. Protecting the workers is a good thing when the USA wants to increase the cost of production in poor countries to reduce their competitiveness, but protecting the workers is a bad thing when US companies want to exploit workers. A good example of US American protectionism is the exclusion of catfish imports from Vietnam. The USA just can't compete. So they call efficient production ``dumping'' or ``unfair trade''. But that just means that the USA can't compete on a level playing field.
CIA trained Mujahideen to make heroin from poppies: The Mujahideen in Afghanistan did not make poppies into heroin until the CIA showed them how to do this so as to get Russian soldiers hooked on heroin. So now Afghanistan is a big exporter of heroin. In fact, the Taleban stopped the growing of poppies, and the US backed the Northern Alliance which kept making heroin when the Taleban stopped 95% of production. All over the world, the CIA is known to have encouraged their clients (local anti-democratic terrorist groups) to get into illegal drug production to finance their terrorist activities. This is particularly true in Central and South America. And yet the USA is always lecturing to other countries that they should have zero tolerance of the drugs which they choose to make illegal. The USA is against compassion for drug victims such as is shown by the Netherlands government.
Bhopal disaster, India: When a US company caused the deaths of many thousands of people in India, the USA gave negligeable compensation to the victims. The sympathy for these people was less than the sympathy for any minor incident in the USA. The USA's big companies value the lives of non-US citizens at absolute zero. But when even one US citizen is killed, there's a huge fuss. If the USA wants people to feel sympathetic towards their victims of disasters, they should start regarding non-US citizens as full human beings. All the USA thinks about in disasters like Bhopal is how to minimize the compensation payouts. So why should anyone feel sympathy for the much less serious NY incident on 2001-9-11. The USA is milking that incident for all it's worth.
Korea Airlines KAL 007 spying mission: When there was very strong opposition throughout Europe to the stationing of US intermediate range ballistic missiles in Europe for pre-emptive attacks on the Soviet Union - which would have caused Europe to be annihilated by the Soviet Union if such an attack had been launched - the USA organised for a Korean Airlines passenger plane to conduct a spy flight over a Soviet launch facility during a Soviet military exercise, thereby provoking the Soviet Union to destroy the plane. The USA doctored tapes which were presented to the United Nations. The USA had closely tracked the spy mission with an AWACS plane. The USA didn't confess to having conducted a spy mission with a passenger plane until well after the issue had left the headlines. In the meantime, the political effect of the destruction of the KAL 007 plane was to remove all opposition to intermediate range ballistic missiles in Europe. So the USA got its policies forced onto Europe at the cost of several hundred Korean lives. (In case anyone thinks that the USA's spy satellites were so good that they didn't need to make spy flights, remember that a US spy flight near China was brought down in April 2001. So more than a decade later, the US still needs to make spy flights.)
US citizens are the most wasteful people on Earth: To sustain their lifestyle, US citizens consume about 10 to 20 times the resources per capita of the average of the rest of the world including Europe. Americans think they're the most productive people on Earth. They are not. They don't produce the most. They just consume the most. Just as one example, they burn about 25% of the fossil fuels which are consumed by all people on Earth, but US citizens are only about 4% of the population of the Earth. So that means that they consume about (25/4)/(75/96) = 8 times the average of all other nations. US citizens consume about twice the fuel of western Europeans for approximately the same standard of living. But when countries which supply critical materials to the USA threaten to deny supply, the USA is quick to go in with the military to ensure continuation. Americans think that their excessive consumption is an indication of their moral superiority, but in fact the opposite is true.
Export of culture of violence through movies: Since 1945 and long before, the USA has been exporting it culture of violence world-wide. Other countries don't traditionally create movies with so much violence as US movies. For example, French movies are more oriented to life-style, sex, and life problems. In the USA, when the V-chip was proposed, it was supposed to stop kids watching violence. But US citizens think that sex and violence are inseparable. So they added sex to the list of things to censor with the V-chip. When US movies show sex, they always have to include physical violence, murder and general nastiness. (US citizens may be surprised to learn that sex and violence are thought of as opposites in many other countries.) The huge overdose of murders and visciousness of US movies have been exported world-wide. (US movies pay for themselves in US sales. So they can make the prices low to undercut all indigenous productions overseas. US viewers can't tolerate overseas movies much, especially with subtitles. So the export doesn't go the other way much.)
The result of this is that people all over the world are brought up from childhood on a diet of constant crass violence and inhumanity in the movies they see. They are also led to believe that sex requires violence, and that violence is much more socially acceptable than sex. If the USA wants other countries to be peace-loving, perhaps they should stop exporting super-violent movies and try to work out how to make successful movies without a single murder or car chase.
Resistance to outlawing mines: The USA is the principal country resisting the international outlawing of mines. The USA claims that they need mines in Korea. The USA financed the extensive mining of Nicaragua by terrorists. The USA used mines extensively itself in the 1991 war against Iraq. In the 2001/2002 war against Afghanistan, the USA made extensive use of cluster bombs which leave behind very numerous mine-like mini-bombs which kill children because they look like cans of food. Other countries obviously conclude from this that since the ``leader of the free world'' says it is a good and necessary thing to lay mines (in a foreign country even), then it must be okay for everyone else. Once again, the USA leads by bad example.
Disparagement, sabotage, harrassment and bullying of the United Nations: Since the setting up of the United Nations, the USA has attempted to starve and harrass the United Nations at every opportunity. But when the USA needs ``legitimacy'' for an aggressive military action, they bully and threaten the United Nations. The USA offers bribes whenever they want a `yes' vote on anything. The USA cuts off aid to any country which votes against it. The UN has been completely corrupted by the USA. The USA regards the UN as a threat to its world dominance. The United Nations is ``not the US national interest''. So the USA has treated the UN like a slave which it starves and gives orders to. The USA vetos everything which is not in the US or Israeli interest. (The USA has used the UN Security Council veto more than 70 times; the UK has used the SC veto more than 30 times.) The UN should have expelled the USA a long time ago. The USA expects all countries to obey the resolutions which it sponsors, and non-compliance means that they will be invaded. But the USA refuses to obey any resolution which is not convenient for it. The concept of cooperation is alien to the USA's psychological nature. How can other countries make sacrifices to meet the expectations of the UN when the USA thwarts and disparages the United Nations at every opportunity?
Killing dozens of Italian cable car passengers: A few years ago, US air force pilots in Italy were playing around in their jet fighter by skimming just underneath the cable supporting a few dozen skiers. They cut the cable and all of the skiers were killed. This kind of thing happens time after time because USAF pilots treat their job as being like a game. And the cost is often large numbers of foreign lives. Apologies from the USA for such reckless murder using their killer toys are very rare and never genuine. Another example is the reckless killing of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan in 2002.
Opposition to democracy in Australia: In 1975, the USA listed Australia as being one of the top security threats in some list of assessments of ``allied'' governments. Australia was regarded as a serious risk to the USA because it had a Labor government. It is rumoured that the CIA supported the coup against the legally elected Labor government in 1975 which resulted in an election and a pro-USA party in power. At the time of that election, Australian army reserve forces were put on alert to implement martial law in case the Labor government was re-elected. The USA has never accepted the full legitimacy of Labor governments in Australia. Nor have their proxies, the misnamed Liberal party of Australia.
Support for enslavement of poor countries: In cooperation with Europe and other rich countries, the USA concsiously or unconsciously keeps poor countries in a condition of debt bondage. In India and some other countries, there are millions of people who have such heavy debt and such low incomes that they must work for their whole life to pay off their debt, and then they pass on the debt to their children who inherit the debt. In this way, millions of Indians are in a condition which is no different to slavery. In the same way, there are very many poor countries in the world which will never be able to pay off their national debt to the rich countries. Therefore they are obliged to work forever for foreign masters. A recent example of this is Argentina, where many people do not have enough food, but the food which is produced must be exported to pay off debt. Thus there are many countries which must work to pay off an unpayable debt forever rather than working to feed their own people. About half the people of the world are in countries in this condition of `debt bondage' or slavery, and the USA is strongly opposed to relieving these countries of unpayable debt. Whereas the USA used to have slaves in their own country, now there are starving slaves in many other countries working to produce things for the USA instead of working to feed themselves. This is a total and utter humiliation of the poor countries. The world is now divided into master countries and slave countries, and the USA is very reluctant to let the slaves go free, since the USA's wealth depends on these billions of slaves.
Gulf of Tonkin incident: In 1964, the US government administration lied about the North Vietnamese attacking US ships in the Gulf of Tonkin and used this as a pretext for a massive escalation of aggression against North Vietnam. The US government's respect for truth is similar to Hitler's respect for truth when he invaded Poland because of the alleged mistreatment of Germans by the Poles.
The Kuwait incubator babies lie: The USA lied to the UN about the removal by Iraqis of Kuwaiti babies from incubators in order to justify the war against Iraq in 1991. They trained a young female member of the Kuwaiti royal family to cry as she told the lies to a UN meeting. This lie by the USA is comparable to the Nazi lie about Jews eating German babies. (In fact, the USA's propaganda about the threat from International muslim conspiracy is comparable to the Nazi propaganda about the threat from the ``International Jew''. Those who do not understand history are condemned to repeat it!) How can the world take seriously any ``evidence'' presented to the UN by the USA again? In late 2002 and early 2003, the USA is asking for the world's trust in its ``evidence'' to justify invasion of Iraq.
War crimes against Iraq: In the 1991 war to liberate Kuwait from Iraq, the US planes killed thousands of retreating soldiers. One of the US pilots at the time said it was ``like shooting fish in a barrel''. Even most US Americans thought that this was shameful, but the US military never apologize for their war crimes.
Establishment of the new principle of ``pre-emptive war'': In 2002/2003, the USA's very clever propaganda organisations have come up with a new euphemism for naked aggression. Now they're calling it ``pre-emptive military action''. It used to be taken for granted that the country which attacks first is the guilty party. This approach had the advantage that if no one wants to be the first to attack, then no one will ever attack. So outlawing aggression has the effect of minimizing war. Now the USA has changed that with the new doctrine of ``pre-emptive war''. Since the USA is the leader of the world, all countries in the world will now conclude that they can conduct a ``pre-emptive action'' with justification. The effect will be an outbreak of numerous wars in the next decade as every country which feels threatened invades its neighbours. When other countries catch up with the USA's current military technological advantage, the USA will regret deeply its ``might is right'' approach to world affairs.
Abuse of the IMF as a tool of international blackmail: We have been seeing in early 2003 how the USA uses the IMF as a tool to bribe and threaten poor countries. The original purpose of the IMF was not to provide a tool for bribing and bullying, and yet the US government uses the IMF in this way. All of the poor countries on the UN security council are shaking in their boots because of US threats to cut IMF aid if they vote against the unjust war of the USA against Iraq. If it's a question of morality, then why does the USA have to use threats and bribes? In particular, the USA has offered some IMF loans as bribes to Turkey. This kind of misuse of the IMF has been going on for decades. The USA misuses also many other international organisations in the same way to bribe and bully other countries.
Removal of Boutros Boutros-Ghali from the United Nations: When the term of Boutros Boutros-Ghali as Secretary-General of the United Nations came to and end, there was unanimous and strong agreement of the Security Council that he should have a second term. But this was vetoed by the United States. (This proves that the USA is not in favour of consensus on the UN Security Council.) The USA continually blocked the re-appointment until eventually everyone had to agree to the USA's appointment of Kofi Anan, the USA's stooge, to the position. So Kofi Anan was appointed with a `majority' of 1 vote for and 14 votes against. This shows that the United Nations is a passive tool of the US government.
The master plan to subjugate the entire Middle East: The US government has announced in March 2003, and earlier through its christian right-wing think tanks, that it intends the war of aggression against Iraq to be part of a total subjugation of the Middle East. This is a new Drang nach Osten to turn Middle East nations into US provinces or economic slave colonies. The previous Drang nach Osten was aimed at subjugating the Slav peoples. Now the USA has found a new class of ``Untermenschen'' to enslave in the Middle East.
Ethnic cleansing of native Americans: The USA was built on native American land which was stolen. This was achieved by the ethnic cleansing of the entire area of the USA apart from a few ``reservations'' which are the bits left over that the colonists didn't immediately want. US Americans should never forget that the USA is a colony created by theft. Therefore the USA cannot lecture other countries about colonization. A nation that was built from ethnic cleansing and slavery is not in a strong position to talk internationally about morality. The ``comboys and indians'' movie genre during the 20th century has given the impression that the ethnic cleansing of native American lands was something like a sport where the good guys won. How many countries proudly base their national cinema culture on their own history of ethnic cleansing?
Incubator babies Mark II: the Iraq WMD lie: After their success with the notorious Incubator Babies lie in 1991, when the US government presented to the United Nations a woman who they trained to lie about babies being thrown out of the Kuwait hospital incubators by the Iraqi invaders, the US had further ``success'' in 2003 with their lies to the United Nations about the Iraqi ``Weapons of Mass Destruction''. Although Colin Powell talks like a gentlemen, he is an expert liar like the rest of the US government. Meanwhile the USA continues to give massive financial, military and diplomatic support to the only state in the Middle East with WMDs, a state which kills thousands of innocent people in a massive concentration camp every year. Now the US government expects everyone to believe that they are putting pressure on the Israeli regime to give some very limited form of statehood to their little slave colony. The world continues to hope that this time the US government can be trusted. After 55 years of duplicity on this issue, the US government deserves no trust at all until they can show that they can the truth and keep promises. There is no hope of this, of course. It is not in the US government's interest to tell the truth or keep promises. (See also this Independent story about 20 lies used to `justify' the aggression against Iraq.)

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To put it simply:
You can't make someone love you by beating them with a stick.
US Americans should find ways of feeling good without killing people.
Killing foreigners is not the only way to ``feel proud to be American''.
The USA is on the moral low ground.
The USA is the Number 1 rogue state in the world and the Number 1 perpetrator and supporter of international terrorism.
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Any one or two of these reasons would be adequate to explain why the world hates the USA. But taken together, it is amazing that the USA has not been attacked before by ``terrorists''. I personally expect that some time in the next 3-5 years, a ``terrorist'' will sail into a US harbour and explode a nuclear weapon on board a ship. But even this would not be greater than the crimes committed by the USA against other countries. The ``terrorists'' will have been emboldened by the 2001-9-11 attack, and they will now be preparing something even bigger to upstage that.
The USA is responsible for millions of deaths every decade world-wide. This has been done without any fear of attack on US territory. Now for the first time, the USA gets an attack, and it goes on a rampage killing thousands of innocent people while trying to track down and kill a handful of ``masterminds''.

Throughout the last 50 years, the USA has been by far the most generous and enthusiastic funder and supporter of world terrorism. They are not just the biggest sponsor of

....terrorism. They are also in the top 10 countries which have committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.

My message At january 23,2004: censored.

Why...?

"the weapons of massive destruction does not exist in Iraq "

"America provided many weapons to the terrorists since 50 years..."

"Americains do not know anything. They know what Bush says to them."

I do not have the right to say it.

I must say = "I hate France and French"...
I must be racist and believe : the USA are perfect.

Excuse my faults. I'm "stupid" European.

International,

I'm not sure what you mean about your January 23, 2004 message being censored. I know that I haven't touched your messages. They take up most of the space on this page and are exactly as you posted them.

I only delete messages that are clearly spam, such as advertisements for viagra-type drugs or similar. In fact, I block the IP addresses of such spammers.

On the other hand, I will not even edit the messages of people who want to discuss substantive issues on this site and I allow anyone to post anonymously. It doesn't matter what opinion a poster expresses, or whether I agree with them, I let their comments stay.

There have been a lot of comments on this topic that strike me as absurdly ignorant and hateful. These commenters help to explain why the rest of the world finds the U.S. to be so arrogant.

That was the point of the post to begin with. France didn't agree with the Bush Administration's reasons for war in Iraq, and so like a bunch of cry-babies we change the name of French Fries to Freedom Fries?!? What happened to reasoned argumentation?

The proffered reasons for pre-emptive war of Weapons of Mass Destruction, a link between Saddam and Al-Qaeda, and an emminent threat to the U.S. from Iraq have all now proven to be totally bogus. There were no weapons, there was no link, and hence there was no emminent threat. France, Germany, and Russia were RIGHT about this issue, and blind Americans still come to this topic and post ridiculous comments about what horrible people the French are. Whatever! It's truly amazing to me. I suppose "There are none so blind as those who will not see."

Right now its a trend to hate France, and trends pass.

Remember that France was once more powerful than the US, and in that time, the US received financial and military aid from France against the english.

Remember Lafayette and the ship blockade against the English in the US revolutionary war.

Remember who gave the US their famous statue of liberty.

It is true that the U.S. liberated France in the 2nd WW, and for that, the french should be eternaly thankful.

However, the U.S. must remember that their is a not so small possibility, that they wouldnt exist as the nation they are today without the help of the France.

Time passes by and feelings will hopefully change.

Right now its a trend to hate France, and trends pass.

Remember that France was once more powerful than the US, and in that time, the US received financial and military aid from France against the english.

Remember Lafayette and the ship blockade against the English in the US revolutionary war.

Remember who gave the US their famous statue of liberty.

It is true that the U.S. liberated France in the 2nd WW, and for that, the french should be eternaly thankful.

However, the U.S. must remember that their is a not so small possibility, that they wouldnt exist as the nation they are today without the help of the France.

Time passes by and feelings will hopefully change.

I feel very sorry for american people , but they really have to assume the fact that they seem stupid, ignorent and degerously crazy ,specialy now that we have the confirmation that Bush lied, what we tryed to make them understand, in vain.
I 'm chocked by the lists what france did wrong...
what america did wrong... the most part of bad things we did them together, as odd allies of all times.
anyway american are really disapointing , looking so despotic , facist and racist , I think next time you'd be well inspired by electing a president who'd rather put money into education than into wars that dont help anyone, make things worse , and make you behave and talk as german during the 30's.

Ive been hearing a lot how France owes to America the outcome of WW2.
How France is a traitor by not going to war or endorsing the US.

Here are some facts that Americans must remember

1. Indirectly France created the UK and defined the english language by the Norman (french) invasion in 1066 to England.
2. The American colonies were initially created by UK citizens.
3. The American Independence would not have hapened without the aid of the french.

Therefore you can conclude the following:

a.UK and English language wouldnt exist as we know it today if it werent because of FRANCE.
b America would not exist as an independent country if it werent because of FRANCE.
c. Today AMERICA has money, weapons and power, but have an inferiority complex due to lack of authentic culture and lack of style. They are like the new rich family that just moved up town, and dont know what to wear, what to buy and mainly dont know squat about what to eat.They are the new rich rednecks, who are barely trying to speak english getting rid of the working class slang.

Well, I've grown up in the U.S., and I have to say it is a wonderful country. Though, I've never been to other countries, so who's to say if this is a good country? Well... Another thing about me is... I am French. People knew this before, and they still know it now.
Here's the problem. All of my friends make some pretty hateful jokes about me being french. Everywhere I go, people make remarks about me being French. They say things like "you pussy, you didn't join the war." ...
Let me tell you something... Whoever's telling me this is obviously not in the war, and although I'm French, I was born here in America, so we are technically on the same side. Stop making me your enemy by making these damn remarks.
If you're not strong enough to back that up, just shut up. Just do it. And yes, people in America that I've seen DO hate me now, even though we've been friends for a while. I don't understand at all, and they even tell me that they don't either. It's not like I threw a dirty sock at the President or anything. Well, sorry, I didn't mean to be dissed by people that just want to fit in.
One more thing... I know a TON of people who HATE president Bush because he's sent people to war. Well, they're the same people that HATE France because they're NOT in the war. Oh well.

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I F*ckin hate americans it is a decayed country possesed by super media. The bush administration make Hitler and Dr J.Goebells look like amateurs when come to nationlist propaganda. How dare americans critisize the French. Just look at Americans they base their lives around games like baseball, 'American' Football which lack inteeligence oops sorry the american do lack intelligence. My theory is 'Most americans are stupid, Most of the time' Im not french im British but my passion for Europe burns. We have Class intelligence. We are more relaxed on things like drugs which americans seem to think is the devil. Whereas to carry a hangun is not. The french should carry on boycotting Macdonalds and burgerking and any signs of american culture coming into Europe. if I had my way I would cut all alliances with the U.S.A from britian. I hate Bush I hate the all. In 50 years time The European Union will be economicly superior to the u.s With more states joining the Euro the Dollar will go down. Oh poor america you wont like being world number 2! Looks like you will have to steal more oil like you did in Iraq

I F*ckin hate americans it is a decayed country possesed by super media. The bush administration make Hitler and Dr J.Goebells look like amateurs when come to nationlist propaganda. How dare americans critisize the French. Just look at Americans they base their lives around games like baseball, 'American' Football which lack inteeligence oops sorry the american do lack intelligence. My theory is 'Most americans are stupid, Most of the time' Im not french im British but my passion for Europe burns. We have Class intelligence. We are more relaxed on things like drugs which americans seem to think is the devil. Whereas to carry a hangun is not. The french should carry on boycotting Macdonalds and burgerking and any signs of american culture coming into Europe. if I had my way I would cut all alliances with the U.S.A from britian. I hate Bush I hate the all. In 50 years time The European Union will be economicly superior to the u.s With more states joining the Euro the Dollar will go down. Oh poor america you wont like being world number 2! Looks like you will have to steal more oil like you did in Iraq

I F*ckin hate americans it is a decayed country possesed by super media. The bush administration make Hitler and Dr J.Goebells look like amateurs when come to nationlist propaganda. How dare americans critisize the French. Just look at Americans they base their lives around games like baseball, 'American' Football which lack inteeligence oops sorry the american do lack intelligence. My theory is 'Most americans are stupid, Most of the time' Im not french im British but my passion for Europe burns. We have Class intelligence. We are more relaxed on things like drugs which americans seem to think is the devil. Whereas to carry a hangun is not. The french should carry on boycotting Macdonalds and burgerking and any signs of american culture coming into Europe. if I had my way I would cut all alliances with the U.S.A from britian. I hate Bush I hate the all. In 50 years time The European Union will be economicly superior to the u.s With more states joining the Euro the Dollar will go down. Oh poor america you wont like being world number 2! Looks like you will have to steal more oil like you did in Iraq

I F*ckin hate americans it is a decayed country possesed by super media. The bush administration make Hitler and Dr J.Goebells look like amateurs when come to nationlist propaganda. How dare americans critisize the French. Just look at Americans they base their lives around games like baseball, 'American' Football which lack inteeligence oops sorry the american do lack intelligence. My theory is 'Most americans are stupid, Most of the time' Im not french im British but my passion for Europe burns. We have Class intelligence. We are more relaxed on things like drugs which americans seem to think is the devil. Whereas to carry a hangun is not. The french should carry on boycotting Macdonalds and burgerking and any signs of american culture coming into Europe. if I had my way I would cut all alliances with the U.S.A from britian. I hate Bush I hate the all. In 50 years time The European Union will be economicly superior to the u.s With more states joining the Euro the Dollar will go down. Oh poor america you wont like being world number 2! Looks like you will have to steal more oil like you did in Iraq

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Rodney Veale, you reveal your own level of intelligence when you have to use an expletive within your first few words. As already stated, America isnt perfect, what country is..? But at least they are democratic, the EU is not. Noone is accountable, there are no elections. If you feel so drawn to Europe, why not move there and take your ilk with you?? I'm sure you will feel right at home. Don't forget to hand in your British passport on your way out and please ensure you dont come back to milk the NHS for as much as you can like the rest of your friends who want to flush whats left of this once great nation down the toilet. Remove Labour (esp Tony Blair), remove all the bleeding hearts who welcome the rights of terrorists and other murderers, the burglars, the drug dealers, the drunks who cause fights with innocent passers by, the rapists, the child molesters... take them all with you. We can then bring in REAL laws to make sure people like you never come back.. restore the death penalty, apply it to anyone who commits any violent crime for a third time, apply it instantly to murderers, paedophiles, rapists and terrorists. No reduced jail time for good behaviour, instead its increased for bad behaviour. No more trips for louts to theme parks, instead its solitary confinement in a room which is permanently lit for a week, with no indication of the passage of time, all thats needed is a bed, food and water.

But then of course all that is far too extreme for people like you isnt it?? I just bet your one of those people who campaigns for the rights of the wrongdoers arent you?? No doubt your job relies on their existence.. maybe your a social worker, the type that goes out on the jolly days out with the parasites infesting our society. Or maybe youre a drop out student on some nancy course going nowhere? Head for Europe sunshine, please, please, please go. Dont come back, for if you do then this country is still an extra step away from normality, where old people can walk the streets, where you can go out for a drink in peace, where criminals are punished, where common sense prevails over politically correct catastrophe. A country where those who wish to immigrate and WORK and EARN a living are welcomed and those who dont are booted out. Where our soldiers are backed by our government instead of left to die by their political 'leaders' who hate them. A country where you have the right to defend yourself, your home and your family. A country where you can put up the national flag without being smeared as racist, where you can go through the day without wondering how it is people like you can encourage the surrender of this land to nations that hate us... yes that means France and Germany. Germany, a country which is now achieving by the pen what it could not do by the sword, and France, cosying up as always, itching for scraps.

It is as I write this that I am glad my grandfather is dead, it would break his heart to see how things are today. To think that he and thousands of others fought and died to protect freedom, to topple tyranny, . Some might say they failed. The EU is a dictatorship in a non military form, with Germany and France at the helm, hell bent on taking control and destroying this country as we know it. If they succeed, this whole nation will become 'immigration island', all migrants across europe will be channelled here, all who oppose will be shouted down, smeared as racist by the same people who dont want the migrants in their countries either.

Once they arrive, no help will be given by the EU, because they couldnt care less. Any rebate this country gets anyway is about 2% of what we give in total every year. Society will be allowed to break down to chaos. Never has British society been so endangered by its own government. And why? Its because the higher echelons of this country are infested with people like you Rodney Veale, people who would rather see innocent people die in a bomb blast than take on the terrorists, who gloated when 3000 innocent people perished in New York, who campaigned against the removal of Saddam Hussein. Who campaigned against the iraq war, but didnt march against the genocide committed by Saddam against his own defenceless people, who didnt march when husbands were forced to watch their wives gang raped for daring to speak out against Saddam, who didnt march as the skulls of children were shattered by boot heels. Why havent you marched to campaign against Robert Mugabe and his regime in Zimbabwe? You and a hypocrite with absolutely no grip on the facts. So do everybody a favour.... go...

correction to last line.... (wouldnt want to give Rod some ammo)

You ARE a hypocrite with absolutely no grip on the facts. So do everybody a favour.... go...

The United States has a great deal of thoughtful, intelligent, people. Alas, it also has Southern White people. For those ignorant inbreeders to mock the French is laughable. "All Stupid, All the Time". In most countries, a fool like Bush comes into power as a result of a coup. Only the US actually would elect someone like this. Too bad the twin towers were not packed exclusively Republicans. Then..no tragedy

America' history begins with the genocide of natives

Mattrelli you are a typical right wing republican church going facist! I live in Britian you Idiot! My country is only a small piece of land, it is smaller than Texas. Immigrants and asylum seekers are welcomed here because we have a left wing elements in our government. They come from countries in dissaray! If they dont work in our country we just dont give them the boot unlike USA becuase it is right to help others which cant help themselves! I am a Socialist I hate republicans LEFT v.s RIGHT if you havent heard Mattrelli the world is becoming more LEFT. Only the USA will stay the same as it always has been the crook of the world the ugly piece of land that is dressed in 'Freedom and Democarcy'. Oh and why Democracy is not always so great look at you governor of California he is the frickin Terminator! lol. Do you americans think that is COOL, you might do but over here in Europe we dont know to Laugh or to Cry! lol lol.

The whole point of the E.U is to help poorer countires such as Turkey to become better. All member states will share a common economic policy, which all member will benefit. It is great idear if any member doenst think it is they can leave at any time so it isnt a dictatorship. The Euro will become more stable and Europe will bcome a even better place to live. the ne E.U constitution will bring greater security to member states. Maybe americans should revise their political beliefs and relax laws on immigration you should welcome immigrants you have enough space! So dont critisise the E.U

"The whole point of the EU is to help poorer countries"? Oh how naive! The whole point of the EU is to serve itself - or should I say France and Germany. If the EU gains full control, this land will become the official 'haven' of all migrants across the continent, thats why so many are coming in without checks... our government is 'softening' us up for this official policy. How can all member states share a common economic policy? One size does not fit all, everybody cannot benefit at the same time, it just does not work like that. You write as though you think I live in America, well actually I'm British (and I'll rise above the personal smear - after all it's what socialists do when they have no coherent argument). And yes I am right wing, but I'm not a facist nor am I a church goer as I do not believe in the existence of a 'god'.

The fact you have attacked democracy symbolises all that is wrong with Europe, yourself and people like you.. you don't want people to have freedom or the right to disagree, yet you use that right to disagree with me on this site, you try to ram your views over everybody else and attack them if they oppose you. I dont just mean verbal attacks either.. what about that guy in Norfolk? The one who was holding up a placard supporting the Iraq war. He was beaten up by peace protesters!!!

You seem to either ignore the facts about the EU, or are lying. How can you possibly say that any member state who is not happy about their presence in the EU can leave at any time. What an absurd statement. What you flush down the toilet you do not get back. The whole point of the EU is power, once is gained do you seriously (and naively) believe that they will just hand that power back??

The EU constitution will not bring security, just more power for unelected politicians who couldnt care less what you or I think. Every law they have passed is flawed and leans away from the law abiding. For example: The charter of human rights. Nothing more than protection for criminals and terrorists. Did you know that if someone throws a brick at your house, and you film them while they are doing it, and while you are filming them they are on the public footpath outside your home, you are the one facing prosecution! We have prisoners trying to sue the government because being imprisoned infringes their human rights!! No doubt you would love to see them all set free so everybody can run through fields and go tree hugging.

You hate the Americans, you loathe yourself no doubt for being British, yet without either nations 'not so great' democracy, you would either not be alive, or be saluting the swastika. You would be brainwashed into believing the holocaust was right, you would not be allowed to speak out against your rulers and you certainly would not be able to air your views on a website that someone else had the freedom - and the choice - to provide. So excuse me but criticising the EU is my choice (for now) my right (for now) and I will not be shouted down.

I would like to thank the host of this site - whoever you are - because although I don't agree with Mr Veale, its nice to be able to air my views and read his. A great symbol of democracy don't you think?

Oh so Matrelli your one of my fellow country men that still dreams about the good old days of the empire. To keep Great British sovriegnty with staying with the Sterling. Praising the Queen and such traditions as herridairy peers in the house of Lords and keeping the fields of the UK clean of immigrants! And above all staying away from that horrible E.U. Inderpendent Britian of course.
Marvellous.

Times have changed, The queen is a stupid figure head and its so embarrasing to be one of the only countries with a monarchy! The Euro is a great idea and the E.U. The Conservative approach is so dumb! I have had enough of people like you Im bored stiffless!

You see my solution is to make the E.U into a single super state, get rid of the royale family. Create a single army! Every nation in the E.U would have the right to keep its national flag! But all citizens of member states would be classed as Eurpeans! It would be lead by collective leadership In the Parliament in Brussels With the big E.U flag flying high in the sky. no memeber would have its own boarders anymore when looking on a political map It would just be seen as European Union (all current countries) a bit simmiallr to the Soviet union.
Its time to move on and this is the way foward! I hope I have pickep up some allies on this website

You see everyone Im as 'Left' as they can be!
Marx, Engels, Lenin, Krushchev, Stalin

I don't know about allies Rodney, more like enemies. A single army wouldn't work. The French have an army in name only. It's the British soldiers that would be sent to do all the dirty work as they are considered expendable by vermin like you. The day you draw your last breath will be a welcome one you parasite.

A bit strong Iron!!! But I see your frustration with people like Rodney.........

Mattrelli and Iron Sulphide,
Ok Ok you have heard my political beliefs now Can I Hear yours?

Tell me how justified was the War in Iraq? (common you right wing Idiots)

Rodney, you are a very sad man (i use the term 'man' loosely). Yet again you resort to personal insults. War on Iraq was justified because a: saddam ordered gang rapes, mass murder and torture on anyone who opposed him. (I'm sure you cheered when he gassed 1000's of his own people), b: he was a known funder of various terrorist organisations such as hamas and al Qaida. He was a dictator (such as the type you yearn for in the EU). Dont give me such crap as 'what about the civilians' cos you couldnt care less about the civilians in Iraq anymore than you care about civilians here or in the US. Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe needs to go next or are you going to defend him as well and smear anyone who disagrees with you as 'racist'? If you could go back in time, and you were in Winston Churchill's place (I assume you are intelligent enough to know who he was) would you have gone to war against Germany? I bet the answer is no. No doubt you would have sided with them instead.

Winston Churchill was no one! He does not deserve any respect, he was a Racist against Ghandi. He crushed strikes in the uk becuase he feared British Bolshevism and I say what a Wanker. Neville Chamberlain only did what he thought was right but he was an Idiot aswell you see in the 1930's If only we treated Stalin with respect and invited him to Munich we would have been alrite, Instead of licking Mussolini and Hitlers arse! Basicly it was the Right wings fault, typical.
And those lovely Americans were Isolationists at the time.
Unlucky for churchill he was defeated in a landslide against Attlee in 1945 thats what he truly deserved Britian use him.
However people like you Mattrelli dont respect The Soviets for beating the Nazis only the Yanks!

Rodney, you ARE a nazi.

I cant believe what this prat is writing, matrelli ignore him, he is on a wind up. One day he will be dead, dont even give him a minute of your time. People like him should be taken into a public place and shot. full stop.

Whats the matter Iron and Matrelli, I think your in a sour mood because the Conservatives are gonna ket their arsed kicked in the next general election. I bet you were in tears when top up fees bill was passed on Wednesday.
Oh well, as long as class men like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown are in office This country will do just fine! I would rather see Charles Kennedy as the P.M than Micheal Howard the tosser!
Did you cry when the Socialists won the Spanish election eh?
I think anyone with a bit of common sense will agree with me.
Yours sinecerely Rodney

Tony Blair and Gordon Brown? Erm yes Rodney... this country is doing great... You are not allowed to protect yourself and your home, our borders are pretty much non existent, murder, burglary, rape, drugs are all on the increase.

Violent crime is increasing exponentially, with those caught repeatedly told not to be naughty and given bail, paedophiles are given jobs with children, youths run riot without fear of prosecution, people who drive drunk and kill are told they are very silly and banned from driving, some of whom are banned anyway.

Greengrocers who are simply trying to earn a living are made criminals because they want to sell grapes in weights their customers understand.

Tony Blair wants to remove all trace of freedom, and shackle us to a nanny state, where a French court can put a warrant out for your arrest for something that isnt illegal in this country.

The NHS is run by managers instead of Doctors, our transport system is a joke.

Prisoners are treated like hotel guests.. people like you think they are in prison to be helped.. they are not!! They are in there because they are scumbags and need to be kept away from society until the day they die.

And all the above has been deliberately left to rot by this Government because when they try to commit the ultimate act of treachery and betrayal, they will say "Well, the transport system in Europe is better than here, and their crime is lower so they are doing something right".

Well ours would be much lower if the Government did its job. Remember what I said, this country is DELIBERATELY being left to rot.

As for common sense, I dont now how you typed that without putting out a sweat... I doubt you know what it means.

Come on Rodney, you love the EU, relinquish your British passport, take your friends with you, go live in Paris or Berlin. You will love it, you can run through fields and hug each other.. piped music will float through the air..

And then once you are gone, you can live happily ever after in Euroland: befriending terrorists, loathing yourself for being western, loathing the US, loathing the British, campaigning for building contracts without shedding blood.

Just remember... once that bomb goes off and it affects you, dont come running back for help.

Traitors like you used to be executed. Then executions were stopped... look at the problem we have now. If you werent alive, you couldnt cause problems.

The conclusion to our little debate is that Labour will win the next election(you cant say Im idiot for saying that) even though Blair is gaining a poor image there is no real opposition, to say Howard is a treat is a joke.
I think everyone should pay a visit to http://www.eurolegal.org/
This will arnswer all you questions over the E.U.

You see Labour's policies are not quite as 'Left' as I would like them to be but ive learned that I cant have my own way and I think you Matt should learn that aswell.
The result: People a bit like me will get represented in the UK for the next 5 years, Unlucky

eurolegal.org will just do what you do. Spread lies, claiming the EU will solve all problems rather than create them.

Labour are history.... accept it

The 'Troika' which consists of Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunnket are copletely on form and are doing fine things for Britian. Next week the P.M is meeting G.W.Bush for talks on Iraq. I think the Troika are not just going to let the Americans choose all the decisions. It will be intresting to see what happen to Britians invlovement with the E.U will be in the near future!
It really doesnt matter if the new E.U constitution is too beaurocratic! I like that.
This webpage is all about if 'Republicans hate France' I say that they do becuase the Republicans attitudes are like 'You are either with us or Agianst us!'-That is a terrible attitude.
The Queen is currentley in France to ammend our close ralations with the French. Our entente with the French has lasted over a 100 years and we should intend to keep it that way! We should respect France more becuase the Anglo-French partnership is much closer than anglo-usa.

I hate Republicans and all right wing governments.

They are doing fine things for people like you. People like you who profit from bloodshed. I know who you are..... see you on saturday.

fuck clinton fuck france! fuck hippies! i hate all liberal hippies! they destroy my school! those sons o bitches! bomb iraq they do have weapons of mass destruction! nuke the little bastards! did they give those four inocent americans a chance! they were burned, skinned, then hunged! if you liberals want them to live then your gonna die like that but probley even worse!
so go burn in hell you anti-sematic liberal bastards!

fuck clinton fuck france! fuck hippies! i hate all liberal hippies! they destroy my school! those sons o bitches! bomb iraq they do have weapons of mass destruction! nuke the little bastards! did they give those four inocent americans a chance! they were burned, skinned, then hunged! if you liberals want them to live then your gonna die like that but probley even worse!
so go burn in hell you anti-sematic liberal bastards!

fuck clinton fuck france! fuck hippies! i hate all liberal hippies! they destroy my school! those sons o bitches! bomb iraq they do have weapons of mass destruction! nuke the little bastards! did they give those four inocent americans a chance! they were burned, skinned, then hunged! if you liberals want them to live then your gonna die like that but probley even worse!
so go burn in hell you anti-sematic liberal bastards!

American facist nation needs ENEMY's:
- it started with nort american indians
- after if was England, Germany, Japan, USSR ...
- now France (and Germany and Russia)

Instead of waisting our time with your insanities and your ignorance, go and buy comic books for your children (usa=good, the rest of the world=bad) and fetch them to the nearest McDonald to make them grow extra extra large fat (and dumb) like their own fathers ...

McDonald food makes dumb !!!

ted and yuri. you both are whats very wrong with the world.

the american (us) freedom is based on the genocid of north american native indians...
and dont forget this: the u.s.a. is almost the most racist country against the black people...
no country, population, race is morally superior to any other.
history shows that all country or races who thought the are superior were blown away by historic events.

The u.s is not a great nation infact it is quite bad. The backed israel for 2 assinations in the past month. Which was a very stupid thing to do, Europe and the rest of the world condemmed those attacks accept Washington because they think it helps on the war on terror. Tony Blair seems to follow Bush which is dissapointing. The E.U should have accepted those terms with Al-Qaeda which bring out troops out of Iraq and We wont be tagerted.
I would have accepted if it was up to me becuase It Bush's war he can finish it for his beloved freedom.

Rodney you would have accepted those terms beca